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Wisconsin presidential primaries key to Obama, Clinton

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According to each candidate's campaign party, the Democratic race is still close between Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton. John McCain is leading the Republican vote, but former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee is still in the race as of Tuesday morning....

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Daphne Jones

posted 2/13/08 @ 8:49 PM CST

Do we really want to live by the BLACK value system instead of the Ten Commandments that America was built on?

As an American, I don't believe that black and white is a divided entity. However, Obama obviously does if you see the church he attends and discover what this young inexperienced presidential candidate stands for.

As an American I have heard all of the slanderous material that has been presented about hopeful Hillary Clinton. My question to is how did we ever get so lucky to have such a perfect person as Obama run for our president. That is my assumption considering there is absolutely nothing said in the media about Obama his future black value system for this country if he becomes president. http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html
This is the church website Obama declared he attends while being interviewed on the Oprah Show.

Furthermore, if Obama has the necessary experience and competence to run this country then why does he not have the confidence or strategy to face Hillary in a debate?
How is Obama going to deal with foreign policy if he cannot even debate one of his own?
I have heard that Hillary Clinton is a racist but I have found no evidence to support this fact. I have been impartial to both candidates but considering all the negative publicity with no backing Mrs. Clinton has received and the fact that Obama has skated around due to a talk show host's influence on American television I have since began to sway toward the democratic side of Hillary. I personally think Tyra Banks should show her support for Hillary if we are going to make this a popularity vote based on what an American icon deems as sufficient experience due to the color of the candidates' background.

Hillary has more experience, intelligence, confidence and leadership skills than Obama who has not been in politics long enough to successfully deliver this country from the damage that has been done over the past eight years since we had another Clinton in presidency.

In conclusion, all I ask is that you educate yourself and your readers on the issues and not judge the candidates on sex, race, popularity or on what a talk show host believes is correct candidate before you cast your vote.

Pamela V.

posted 2/15/08 @ 1:52 AM CST

[QUOTE id="9a7dc6ba-3074-4cf1-b136-41d22d1f945f"]Do we really want to live by the BLACK value system instead of the Ten Commandments that America was built on?

As an American, I don't believe that black and white is a divided entity. However, Obama obviously does if you see the church he attends and discover what this young inexperienced presidential candidate stands for. "


Your post makes me sad. It sounds as though you are the one that has not "educated" yourself, as you urge others to do, because you are swallowing a familiar party propaganda line whole. Senator Obama has actually had more experience as a senator than Senator Clinton, if you don't discount his years as an Illinois Senator, and if stop relying on Ms. Clinton's years as a wife of a president -- years that are not "experience" in office at all. He has detailed descriptions of his stand on the issues on his website. Ms. Clinton's campaign managers are highly aggressive, and she is tough. I admire her toughness. It does her no service to describe her as a victim, as you do, and that is inaccurate. Your slur about Mr. Obama's former church clearly demonstrates that he has not been treated with kid gloves by the media, because you are spouting some of the same inaccurate propaganda that has been put out about him in the media. If you had taken the time to explore the issues more deeply, you would have learned that Mr. Obama doesn't agree with everything Rev. Wright says. They are separate individuals. That said, if you also take the time to read the information on the website you offer a link to, you will find that it stresses hard work, self-esteem, and excellence for its church members. Not violence or hatred. This is the Rev. Wright's attempt to help his congregation rise above some of the harsh messages they've grown up under, to be unashamed of their color, and to improve their lives. That is a very American message, and it is a Christian message as well. There is nothing wrong with that church's attempts to overcome the problems they have seen in Chicago's system -- quite apart from the fact that Mr. Obama has not embraced any part of that website. If you listen to any of his speeches you will learn that he stresses unity rather than racial divisions, and that his focus is on anything but race. He urges that America is ready to elect a president based on that person's qualities, whether they are male, female, black, white or polka-dotted. I agree with him. And I plan to vote for him. He will make a powerful leader, and will bring this country together again.

Shawn Thomas

posted 2/15/08 @ 2:55 AM CST

This is the most divisive, hateful, and flat out wrong "defense" I have heard in a long time. You can tell when the Clinton attack machine is getting panicky when blatant racism is the order of the day.

Obama has debated Clinton 18 times and is scheduled for two more in the next week. Obama is going to deal with foreign policy the same way he runs his campaign, straightforward, principled, disciplined, fairly, and with unwavering strength. We are moving beyond the divisive politics of the Clinton-Bush years. That era is over.

Obama has served 12 years of elected office, and Clinton only 8. Obama was a community organizer and constitutional law professor, while Clinton was failing with her health care program, the very same one she is once again trying to push forward. She never learned the lessons, and cannot see that there is another way, another kind of politics. It is about working together for the good of the country and the world, not simply to serve the ego and hunger for power.

Comparing Tyra Banks to Oprah Winfrey is hilarious. Clinton would do whatever she could to get Oprah's endorsement, if she could get it. But she can't, just as she will fail to become the Democratic candidate. Thank goodness this country woke up. Thank goodness Senator Obama heard the calling of this country. We need him now more than ever.

gravel kucinich paul nader

posted 2/16/08 @ 5:07 PM CST

Nader Gravel & Paul Kucinich

Awake from your slumber
4 Wise Men march with the people
Washington DC

Whistleblowers
Honesty compassion intelligence guts
Not carrots sticks coercive diplomacy

Divided we fall
Mike Gravel
Dennis Kucinich
Ron Paul
Ralph Nader
No bribery blackmail extortion

Rage against the machine
Democracy rising democracy now
Suffer not

Michael

posted 2/17/08 @ 12:48 PM CST

For the first time in history we have a real chance of having just what this country needs--a women for President. So why are women, particularly young women, voting against Clinton? Do they feel that their kind is incapable of doing the job? Years ago we started breaking up the good old boy network in Washington by electing females to Congress. This year it's time to finish the job and send a female to the White House. Remember, the Kennedy endorsement was not pro Obama, it was anti Clinton. The perennial leader of Washington's good old boy club is Kennedy and he can't stand the idea of having a woman as President. Obama is right; it is time for a change. A gender change.

Anitra Freeman

posted 2/19/08 @ 11:16 PM CST

Originally posted by

Michael

For the first time in history we have a real chance of having just what this country needs--a women for President. So why are women, particularly young women, voting against Clinton? Do they feel that their kind is incapable of doing the job?
Michael, I am a 58-year-old feminist, and I am personally offended by your remark. I am not against strong women; I am against Hillary Clinton. Hillary wouldn't help women in the U.S. any more than Margaret Thatcher helped women in the UK.

Hillary claims "experience credit" for her time as First Lady. That identifies her with Bill Clinton's policies, including kicking millions of single mothers off of welfare with none of the promised aid to become self-sufficient. Bill Clinton betrayed gays in the military, out of political cowardice, and in the same kind of political cowardice Hillary Clinton voted to give George W. Bush his will on Iraq.

She betrayed both American women and Iraqi women with that vote. Half the country could see that there was no evidence for Bush's claims and that an invasion would be disastrous. Obama could see it. Why couldn't Hillary? Why did she knuckle under to the men who wanted war?

Melissa

posted 2/20/08 @ 5:20 PM CST

We are in fact a country of change, and we are indeed looking for a change after the disasters that we have endured the last 8 years under the Bush administration, but if we truly are what we stand for as a country we don't see the candidates by their skin color or their gender, rather we see them for who they are and what they stand for. To say that women not backing Clinton feel as though our "kind" are incapable of performing the duties of President is ludicrous; to back someone solely based on gender is one of the worst things that we could do for our country. We need to stop looking at the superficial aspects of the campaign season and start focusing on the real issues. I don't care if the next potential President is a female, or if they are African-American, I just want someone who can things done in this country and fix all of our current problems.

Originally posted by

Michael

For the first time in history we have a real chance of having just what this country needs--a women for President. So why are women, particularly young women, voting against Clinton? Do they feel that their kind is incapable of doing the job? Years ago we started breaking up the good old boy network in Washington by electing females to Congress. This year it's time to finish the job and send a female to the White House. Remember, the Kennedy endorsement was not pro Obama, it was anti Clinton. The perennial leader of Washington's good old boy club is Kennedy and he can't stand the idea of having a woman as President. Obama is right; it is time for a change. A gender change.

Kevin

posted 2/17/08 @ 2:15 PM CST

Hillary is a woman, but she's a woman who voted for a war that has killed thousands of women (as well as children and men).
She claims that she didn't know that her vote would lead to war; that is simply not true. She knew, but bowed to the neocon pro-war lobby. Just recently, she voted to give Bush the authority to attack Iran. (what is her excuse?).
(...and notice, that her daughter, Chelsea isn't fighting in these wars)

A vote for Hillary, is a vote for more war.

This country needs a change!

I vote for Barack Obama.
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